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Tuesday, 2 May 2017

What is New in Revit 2018

I have recently installed Revit 2018, and to my great pleasure, the install process was a whole lot better than 2017, which I found quite painful last year (or maybe I have just learnt what to look out for this time around?).

I am not going to list all the new features - not because it would take too long, but because it has been done elsewhere.  On the contrary, compared with the list of enhancements we used to get 4 or 5 years ago, it is embarrassingly quick to list the new features in 2018, even if you throw in the enhancements from 2017.1.   So, I will just comment on a few things, particularly those undocumented.  Having said that, I really appreciate the work being done by the development team - I just wish that Autodesk would assign more resources to core Revit instead of going off on a hundred other tangents - after all, Revit is the tool that many of us use most of the time to create BIM content.

Download

After the pain of downloading last year, I tried to order physical media.  It only listed v2017, despite saying that it would only allow the latest version.  On contacting Autodesk I was told that the website was under maintenance and I would not be able to order physical media until further notice!  What a time to do that, within a week or two of release of the new version.  At least I won't have to pay again for the software that I have already paid for once.   Back to Download  . . .

Providing you choose the right download method, you can actually get a proper download of the install software - but the default setting is to install straight from the Autodesk website.  Install Now is what I did with v2017 and it was excruciatingly painful last year.

Make sure you click on 'View All' and choose one of the two Download options - whatever you do, don't leave the setting on 'Install Now' .  It is categorically not the fastest way to install on a single computer (at least it was not on v2017), despite what it says.

Install

Once you have downloaded, and you start the install, it will ask you to choose a discipline.  I chose Architecture, as I did not want all the MEP clutter that I got last time.  Luckily I looked at ALL of the options and settings before going ahead with the install because those two pesky MEP Fabrication options were both selected to install by default.  But I already told the installer that I didn't want any MEP stuff (and it is a lot of stuff, I can assure you).  How dare the MEP Fabrication software be a big upfront default install setting!  Why can't it be respectful of my choices like all the other discipline specific stuff.  Anyway, I narrowly avoided it.

One other thing I changed during the install was to choose British English - this often causes a problem during beta testing but it should be quite safe for a proper release, shouldn't it?  I am very particular about my spelling, and Australian is much closer to British (in spelling even if not spoken form!).


The best thing about this install are the pretty pictures that pop up during the process.  You can be absolutely certain that none of them was modelled in Revit - I couldn't see a single one that Revit would be capable of creating even if you knew the conceptual modelling tools well enough




[Edit:  I am delighted to discover that Autodesk have incorporated some of their add-ins to the install process (click here for more info):
  • Batch Print
  • eTransmit
  • Model Review
  • Worksharing Monitor
  • Formit Converter (checkbox Option) ]

Help  -  Oops!

The in-built help web address seems to be wrong on my install.  When I clicked on the HELP icon (or pressed F1), all I got was a 404 Not Found  error message in the browser
 

There appears to be a typo in the code - just changing the last ENG to ENU (in the web address) seemed to fix it.  I am guessing this may have something to do with British English vs US English?  If so, it is probably something Autodesk can fix on the help website rather than requiring a patch?


Oops!    How did that one slip through ?  Oh, I forgot to mention that I am running just plain Revit, not one of the industry collections.  I'm also on maintenance - perhaps with the 'enhanced help' you get on monthly subscription it actually works?  The Autodesk support team can't seem to replicate this, so I'd be interested to hear if anyone else is affected?

Declutter 

One of the 'enhancements' is a change to the look of the UI to make it look less cluttered.  In fact what Autodesk are doing is following the Microsoft UI changes.  Microsoft are not renowned for their good design - so we are inheriting some examples of questionable design from them.

The ribbon has been stripped of all dividing lines and several blocks of colour so we now have a very flat looking UI, which you may prefer.  Yes it does look cleaner and less cluttered, but some of that stuff was there for a good reason - to delineate different things.  There are some unfortunate side effects that I don't like:

  • The 'R' application button  has been replaced by a 'File' menu - very sensible. Except the tab is dark blue, and remains dark blue all the time, which draws your eyes to it - talk about totally unwanted visual clutter (courtesy of Microsoft)!  Apparently the German version does not have the dark blue colour - it is grey like the rest of the menus (Well, the Germans are good at design, so they get a better designed UI) 
  • There is still a small 'R' icon, which doesn't do much useful (just minimise etc).  You will click on it quite a few times until you get used to the file menu.
  • Running along the base of the ribbon are text titles for each tab - these are now the same colour background as the rest of the ribbon, (with no borders) so they get lost.  It is confusingly clean.
    However, in the family editor, the Family Editor Load tab has a pale purple background.  Very pretty but it stands out like the proverbial dog's b****.  I would prefer all the tab titles to have a light grey background.

  • Try changing the 'Active Scheme' (Options) from light to dark.  You won't be able to read the QAT properly!  I warned Autodesk about that during beta testing, but it has still come through in the final released version.



Stairs

We now have a proper multi-storey stair tool - it looks very promising and seems to be relatively easy and logical to use.  More on that later when I get a chance to really test it.

The old stair sketch tool has finally been removed from the UI - hurray!  So many people kept using it because it was right there all the time - meaning a mish-mash of old and new stairs.  You'll still be able to edit the old style stairs (I assume).  For those people who want to dive straight in to sketching a stair rather than creating stair components, it can still be done using the new stair component sketch tool - refer to my blog post on that
 

An unfortunate side-effect of one of the changes is that I could not create a new stair in a 3D view in my test project - it prompted me to choose a plan or RCP view in order to create the stair.  It works fine in a new project from the 2018 template.   It seems to be a problem only after you edit a top rail on a railing in the project.  I have reported this as a bug, and we'll see how it goes.

Railings

I have yet to test exactly how the new multi-storey stair tool handles railings, but it is supposed to let you edit railings per individual stair within the multi-storey group of stairs/railings.  This sounds like a good thing, but you can be sure that it won't seamlessly join different railings on each level where they vary.  Perhaps I'll be proved wrong?

Control of start and end points of railings sounds good, particularly with closed loop railing sketches - more on that when I've tested it.

Railings on toposurface - great.  At last we can run a fence (or wall) up over sloping terrain, without having to resort to tricky adaptive component workarounds.  No doubt we will all invent new (mis)uses for railings on toposurfaces.

Parameters for Groups and Links

The ability to schedule links & groups and to add user defined parameters to both groups and links sounds wonderful - it should open up all sorts of new workflows.  It will be really useful when you have the same element nested inside multiple instances of the same group or link, but you want to be able to identify it uniquely (like doors for example).  I have tested this and it seems to work really well in schedules.  I can't wait to use this on a real project.


Not withstanding my earlier comments about the list not being extensive, there are a few new features in Revit 2018 that promise to improve our workflows, so I am keen to upgrade soon.  For the full list, refer to the Autodesk help pages or Autodesk knowledge site.
Refer also to what was new in the enhancements from 2017.1

Saturday, 21 May 2016

Revit 2017 Install Take 2 - Using Physical Media

After my first attempts to install Revit 2017, I have just tried again, as my regular laptop came back from being repaired.  This time I used physical media to do the install, as I found it to be so painful to download/install from the Autodesk website:

Ordering Physical Media

The biggest obstacle to overcome is your willingness to pay the new 'Nominal Fee' (Aus$40) for something that was previously part of your annual subscription - so we now have to pay for something that we've already paid for!  What a cheek!  Autodesk have made some lame excuse about most people preferring the convenience of downloading the software - well that might be true if you could just download it and keep the install files locally and reuse them.  But you cannot - I tried it!
I copied the (download) unpacked install files from the C:\Autodesk folder on my old computer and put them in exactly the same location (with the same two folder names) on my repaired laptop.  Then I tried to run setup from there - but it gave an error message saying that either the connection had broken (back to Autodesk account) or the install file location had changed.  Everything I tried gave the same result.  After wasting a lot of time I decided to cough up the $40 and purchase the physical media - I was not about to waste a whole lot more time downloading again.

On the Autodesk Account, under 'Revit' the order Physical media option is hidden away under 'More Actions' as 'Get a physical copy'.
Previously, when I tried to order physical media from the Autodesk account website, it failed - giving an error message.  They seem to have fixed that now, so I was able to order the DVD, and it duly arrived a few days later, all the way from Singapore.  To add insult to injury, the website charged an additional 10% GST, despite the fact that the importer was registered in Ireland and media shipped from Singapore (overseas orders do not normally incur goods and services tax in Australia).

Install from DVD

I normally copy the contents of an install DVD onto the C: drive just to speed up the actual installation - and so that I don't need to find the DVD in order to (re)install any missing components.  This worked just fine, and setup ran happily from the C: drive this time.
I may be mistaken but it also seemed to give me much better control over what was actually installed (or maybe I just missed the options first time around during the download process, fondly imagining that I would get a chance to change them later?).
This time I was able to choose:
  • Country
  • Omit the MEP Fabrication (both imperial and metric)
  • Discipline - can be 'All', 'Construction', 'Architecture', 'Structure', 'Plumbing', 'Mechanical', 'Electrical' etc.  This means that you cannot choose a combination (say M,E + P or Architecture + Structure) - you would have to choose 'All' or just one - so I chose 'Architecture' just to keep it simple.
  • UK Terminology.  It still amuses me when I choose "the British English", which is clearly grammatically incorrect in British English, but perhaps just fine in Chinglish?

As I had previously installed with Australian content, I chose not to install any content this time around - normally it gives you a warning, but I don't remember one this time.

The install process went smoothly - no nasty error messages that I had with the online install (IDP Alexa or DXSetup), where my Anti-virus software didn't like the install process.  Several things could not be prevented from installation - the Autodesk Desktop App being one of them

Autodesk Desktop App 

 This is billed as a "Powerful cloud-centric software delivery solution".  The phrase 'cloud-centric' is enough to put me off using it - why are Autodesk obsessed with putting everything on the cloud?  Don't they realise that not everyone in the world is connected to the internet all the time - if you don't live in the USA, the internet is not always reliable, fast or available all the time!
Aside from that, I have heard from several reliable sources that the 'Autodesk Desktop App' is not a good or reliable piece of software.  In fact it may be a liability - so I intend to uninstall it immediately.

Installed Folders

Since I chose not to install the MEP Fabrication tools nor any content, the installed folders are a lot cleaner than last time.  Of course, I was able to copy the libraries and templates across after I had tidied them up and reinstated all the missing family templates, and removed the unwanted language options.
However, I did notice one piece of  bloatware that should not have been installed, considering that I specifically chose an 'Architectural' discipline install - in C:\ProgramData\Autodesk:
However, if I had been allowed to install a combined discipline of 'Architecture and Structure', that would have been very welcome.

Conclusion

The install process from physical media was dramatically better than the painful online download/install experience.  The only downside was having to pay for software that I had already paid for.  This morning, while Revit 2017 was busy installing on my laptop,  I went to the upmarket Sydney suburb called 'Double Bay', but universally referred to as 'Double Pay' - how appropriate!